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So, I wonder if anyone can point me in the right direction to resolve my issue. In short, a few weeks ago I was vacuuming out my car and when I removed my car mats, I noticed that there was quite a significant amount of fluid under the mat on the drivers side footwell. It isn't like a stagnant water, it has a sort of greasy feel to it. Anyway. I dried it up as best I could and continued my day. I went for a short driver and when I got back, the footwell was wet again. I know that much of this water could be within the foam under carpet but it was quite a lot of fluid. I have had a feel under the pedals and could not feel any wetness, could it be leaking when I depress the pedals? The texture of the wetness is certainly not like normal rainwater. I have refrained from having the heating on and have checked the drain holes under bonnet and they are clear visually yet when I drive, the fluid comes back....currently I have put towels on the carpet to soak up the fluid whilst it is parked up for a couple of days. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated as I have checked all the likely culprits ,drains, door seals etc, It is a 2014 Volvo V40 D2
 

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There is a lot of foam under the carpets on most modern cars, including the V40 as you have noted. What that means is that any minor leak you notice invariably means that the foam and floor will probably be sodden. That could be a small (or larger) rainwater leak that has accumulated over a period of time. The other two possible candidates are a coolant leak, probably from thge heater matric or interior pipework, or a leak from the clutch and brake master cylinders. If you are familiar with the smell of those fluids, it might give you a clue as to the source. Look around the upper ends of the brake and clutch pedals whilst operating them by hand for any signs of fluid, and check both with an absorbent paper towel, which will readily show moisture if any is present.

Are either the cooling system or brake fluid reservoirs low? If so, top them up, mark the levels if necessary (although if you top them up to the "full" marks that shouldn't be necessary, and check repeatedly for loss of fluid. Note that the brake fluid reservoir as baffled, to separate the clutch cylinder chamber from the braking system. You will have to check carefully around the reservoir to compare fluid levels, as a loss of fluid in the clutch system won't be reflected by the level in the brake system part of the reservoir.

Apart from that, you may have a fairly hopeless task unless and until you can dry everything out and then do some more checks. That may mean removing the carpet and circulating air and heat inside the cabin for several days until the foam and floor are completely dry. If there are no obvious leaks from the brake/clutch or cooling system, rub talcum powder around the door and boot hatch seals, lay absorbent paper towel everywhere and start by pouring water around the doors, over the windscreen etc., checking continually for signs of ingress, both on the paper towel sheets and on the talc'd door seals, where any evidence of water running will be obvious in the powder film.

If the "water" feels greasy, it does suggest that it may be coolant or brake/clutch fluid. They have distinctive smells, but if you are not familiar with them it won't necessarily help. OTOH if rainwater has been laying in the foam and carpets for some time, it could also feel greasy to the touch. Leaks can be difficult to resolve, but start with the obvious locations and chacks as above, and if nothing is obvious you will have to dry everything out before going any further. You are going to have to do that at some point anyway, because damp sitting inside the car for any length of time will lead to other problems eventually.
 

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Thank you for the very informative reply,I did wonder if the leak was more a derivative of a leaking part that's being used than a rainwater leak.I have soaked up again on a white towel today and the fluid being drawn up is brown coloured.There is no change in the level of coolant.I have however,since maybe 2020 had to top up the brake fluid reservoir every 2 to 3 months as it says it is low.....I did take it to a few garages whom all checked the brakes and couldn't find any leaks by the wheels but....if it is leaking through depressing the brake pedal then it would be less obvious to anyone.I haven't run the heating in the car and the windows don't steam up.
 

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Brake fluid shouldn't need to be topped up other than perhaps very occasionally to account for a SMALL drop in level caused by wear in brake pads. If you are topping it up that often, and getting a low level warning, the hydraulic fluid is being lost somewhere. The master cylinder piston projects through the bulkhead into the cabin and connects to the upper section of the brake pedal arm. You will need to lay in the footwell so that you can see it. Is there and fluid visible on the piston and/or linkage? It does sound like that might be the explanation, but if not the entire brake system really need stripping down and checking for leaks. Fluid should not need to be topped up to that extent, so whether at the master cylinder, one of the calipers, pipes or hoses, it is being lost somewhere. Irrespective of the cabin leak, it needs investigating and repairing or sooner or later there is the likelihood that you may experience brake failure.
 

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Thank you for the very informative reply,I did wonder if the leak was more a derivative of a leaking part that's being used than a rainwater leak.I have soaked up again on a white towel today and the fluid being drawn up is brown coloured.There is no change in the level of coolant.I have however,since maybe 2020 had to top up the brake fluid reservoir every 2 to 3 months as it says it is low.....I did take it to a few garages whom all checked the brakes and couldn't find any leaks by the wheels but....if it is leaking through depressing the brake pedal then it would be less obvious to anyone.I haven't run the heating in the car and the windows don't steam up.
Don't forget the clutch is hydraulic as well and uses the same reservoir as the brakes.
 

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I would not be surprised if it is brake fluid in the footwell then. I have it in with a reliable mechanic on Tuesday for a service and I have mentioned this issue to him but, at least now maybe I can point him in a general direction so that it gets resolved properly. I have had no issue with braking and when I have queried topping up brake fluid with other mechanics they have said that as there is no sign of any leaking or brake disc wear, it is normal...looks like I have just been pouting my top ups into my footwell without realising it. At least I can all but rule out blocked drains now and concentrate on the braking and transmission systems
 

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Don't forget the clutch is hydraulic as well and uses the same reservoir as the brakes.
It does, but as I mentioned Tony, the reservoir is baffled so that loss of fluid from the clutch circuit below the minimum normal level won't affect the brakes, and vice versa. It should be possible to diagnose when the warning light is illuminated, by checking the levels in the reservoir between the brake side of the system and the clutch side. From memory, the clutch reservoir is at the right rear of the fluid reservoir when facing the engine bay, and the rest of the reservoir is for the brake circuits, but following the clutch cylinder pipe from the gearbox to the master cylinder reservoir will confirm that. Obviously both sides will drop to the upper level of the baffle on initial fluid loss, but further loss will only be on the brake or clutch side, whichever is the cause of the leak, and should be visible by checking the levels through the side of the reservoir.
 

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It does, but as I mentioned Tony, the reservoir is baffled so that loss of fluid from the clutch circuit below the minimum normal level won't affect the brakes, and vice versa. It should be possible to diagnose when the warning light is illuminated, by checking the levels in the reservoir between the brake side of the system and the clutch side. From memory, the clutch reservoir is at the right rear of the fluid reservoir when facing the engine bay, and the rest of the reservoir is for the brake circuits, but following the clutch cylinder pipe from the gearbox to the master cylinder reservoir will confirm that. Obviously both sides will drop to the upper level of the baffle on initial fluid loss, but further loss will only be on the brake or clutch side, whichever is the cause of the leak, and should be visible by checking the levels through the side of the reservoir.
All true - but at the same time a mechanic looking just at the brakes and around the wheels for a leak could be a red herring if the clutch pedal is leaking.
 

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Good morning, I just want to update you all on my original post. I have taken the car into the garage today and he has just rang and confirmed that it is the clutch master cylinder that was leaking. I laid a towel in the footwell to not only soak up the residue in the carpet but to catch new leaks and gave the mechanic a good chance to diagnose quickly....he said himself, they may have looked everywhere else had I not pointed them in the direction of the pedals and that is all in thanks to the advice I have received on here so, thank you everybody for your valued input and guidance
 
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