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Hello, Any advice please on the following incident that happened to me this week in my 64 plate Cross Country Lux D2 Automatic (purchased 3 weeks ago from local garage)!
Driving to work on Wednesday morning when I could smell a fuel chemical type smell from inside the car and my red brake light started to flash on and off a couple of times along the road then about 4/5 miles along the red BRAKE warning light flashed on and off a couple more times and then just a short bit along the red Brake light came on again but this time the back end of the car swerved back and fore and I struggled to control it and lost control slamming me into the central barrier of the dual carriageway the car bounced back from the barrier and I put my foot on the brake but it kept driving and shot The car back across the carriageway up the embankment and came to a halt against a fence post : the red Brake light still on and fluid along the dual carriageway where I had been and leakage straight up to my car.
My poor 3 week ownership of my dream car in shatters as it is a total right off! mileage only 29,900.
 

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I hit spilt diesel on a wet road a few years ago. It was as if I had no brakes at all. You would smell that too
Maybe the flashing light was the traction control operating..
 

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I hit spilt diesel on a wet road a few years ago. It was as if I had no brakes at all. You would smell that too
Maybe the flashing light was the traction control operating..
Hi thank you, road conditions dry and no it definitely was the red brake light at the top right hand corner. There was also fluid Leakage of some sort coming from my vehicle from quite a way back as Police were getting people to deal with the spill on the road and it was all the way to my car. The red brake flashed on and off a couple of times about 4-5 miles before it happened and again just minutes before the red brake light came on and my car fishtailed : it remained on then and was still on when at a stop. Also when I hit barrier and bounced back the brakes didn't work as I was pressing them and as the car is an automatic it drove me back across the carriageway and eventually stopped when I hit a fence at the top of the embankment. It was also rush hour traffic so a busy road just luckily I missed the other cars.
 

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With front wheel drive it should have steered in the direction you pointed it. Very odd, a good look underneath should reveal what leaked and where.
A belt failing would result in loss of servo assist, if something leaked on the belt it may slip, but you wouldn't lose the rear end a result.
I think the steering is electric so that should have been ok. There are wiser souls on here who may have more idea.
 

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With front wheel drive it should have steered in the direction you pointed it. Very odd, a good look underneath should reveal what leaked and where.
A belt failing would result in loss of servo assist, if something leaked on the belt it may slip, but you wouldn't lose the rear end a result.
I think the steering is electric so that should have been ok. There are wiser souls on here who may have more idea.
Thank you, whatever it was it felt like the car was possessed as I had no control (lucky for me the latter part of this nightmare was on a straight part of the dual carriageway) : hopefully the investigation requested by my insurance company who have agreed to get it checked out will find the cause.
 

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Whiplash (which is not very pleasant at all) but lucky It wasn't a lot worse. Yes all tyres were still inflated after the crash.
 

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I have had fuel lines go on a couple of my Taxis over the years, the engine keeps running ok when the return pipe goes, they can spew fuel all over the place . The good thing about diesel is it doesn't ignite like petrol.
 

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Thank you, another interesting point in this dilemma is when I went to the recovery garage that picked my car up from the dual carriageway after the crash, to collect my belongings. The items especially paperwork I had tucked down the side of front passenger seat (middle console part) was soaked in fuel and the recovery garage had to put everything into a thick plastic bag for the smell and stated it was stinking of fuel (their words)! I have relayed this additional fact to my insurers and also contacted Volvo Uk to see if they can shed some light on this as something had gone seriously wrong with the car, and in such a short space of time : and at the scene while I was in the ambulance speaking to the police I recall saying it seemed like the car was possessed as I had no control of it - very very scary!
Also just to answer Richard.hann the garage I purchased the Volvo from (very large reputable one) absolutely terrible customer support from the general manager : he doesn't want to know and stated it's not their problem! And IF a fault is found he would want it re-checked on his premises! Absolutely shocking behaviour.
 

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Sounds grim, good luck!
the end of this video shows where the fuel filter is on the D2, Fiddly job so maybe if that wasn't done properly when serviced and changed the fuel could leak from the fuel lines , the position at the back of the engine bay is about right to maybe dump fuel where you said . This could also get sucked into the heater fan and thus also into the cabin. Take the engine cover off , start the engine, you'll see if/where the fuel is leaking. If the leak is on the pressurised pump/common rail/ injector side it could be under extremely high pressure so don't lean over too close.
 

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Thank you hullu, just had a conversation with my insurance company and it has now been escalated to Volvo uk so the car is being investigated by them along with the insurance engineer (At Volvo) so hopefully I will find out soon what was so wrong with it.
Another nightmare is I'm in limbo until then : because the car is a write of I am not eligible for a courtesy car from my insurance and my insurance can't go any further until the investigation has been done on it : so I'm car less (not good when I live in the country and there's no public transport).
 

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5 weeks and at last im in personal contact with Volvo in Edinburgh, and I must say from the minute they heard of my issue with my Volvo they have been outstanding in their customer service although I didn't purchase my Volvo from them. The garage I did purchase my Volvo from, don't want to know!!
 

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5 weeks and at last im in personal contact with Volvo in Edinburgh, and I must say from the minute they heard of my issue with my Volvo they have been outstanding in their customer service although I didn't purchase my Volvo from them. The garage I did purchase my Volvo from, don't want to know!!
Good to hear that Volvo still takes safety seriously.
The V40 is a very safe car and if it is the fuel leak that has disrupted the car's systems and is the cause of your accident they'll want and need to know.
Someone now will actually have a sniff around and hopefully find the cause. With diesel you often only have to follow your nose (y)
 

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3 months after incident and finally received report from Volvo in Edinburgh! The report did not look at why the vehicle had a visible fuel leak prior to and leading up to the accident (observed and noted by police on scene) from at least a mile back! No checks done on filters as would be expected to see if they had been changed properly before I purchased the vehicle 3 weeks prior the the crash. No data shown in the diagnostics on the red brake warning light I saw flashing on the dash!! The report did specify rodent activity and chewed cables? I have been advised to get an independent check done to the vehicle - which I have relayed to my insurance company I will be getting done as a matter of urgency. So still ongoing!!
 

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3 months after incident and finally received report from Volvo in Edinburgh! The report did not look at why the vehicle had a visible fuel leak prior to and leading up to the accident (observed and noted by police on scene) from at least a mile back! No checks done on filters as would be expected to see if they had been changed properly before I purchased the vehicle 3 weeks prior the the crash. No data shown in the diagnostics on the red brake warning light I saw flashing on the dash!! The report did specify rodent activity and chewed cables? I have been advised to get an independent check done to the vehicle - which I have relayed to my insurance company I will be getting done as a matter of urgency. So still ongoing!!
Yes that can happen.
Rats are attracted to some of the plastics, An acquaintance of mine had a similar problem which caused electrical problems, that was with another car not a V40.
Unless they've also chewed through the fuel line as well, but a fuel leak should be easy to spot.
 

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As you had said there was the diesel smell , it's improbable that Volvo would not have checked the whole fuel system.
Diesel doesn't evaporate like petrol so there should have still been some evidence that there had been a leak.
 

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Thank you hullu, you are right : the police report states fuel/liquid leak coming from my car (strong fuel smell) and this leakage was reported leading up to my car and spillage on the motorway a long way before my car crashed plus the tow company that towed the vehicle noted fuel leakage but alas on inspection it was noted at Volvo there were no diesel odour present and no fuel leak was found to be present! Report was done on the 10/03/20 crash was 15/01/20... very strange!
 

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Maybe they need to run the engine, when the fuel system is under pump pressure the leak should show.
Also If it's the return pipe, engine idling will send excess fuel back to the tank or leak out.
A couple of months would have dried the fuel,
I wonder if Volvo ran the engine.
This is pure guesswork on my part of course. I have had several diesel leaks on my cabs over 40 odd years, even had a tank drop once, on London's Park Lane ,luckily fuel stayed in the tank, but I am still learning.
 
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