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Hi all,
My Saabs are now getting long in the tooth and the wife's car got squashed recently so I am looking for a 'new' one. Preferring to stay Swedish I am looking at a V40 for her, in particular a T3 auto registered in July 2017. I like to check things out before going a distance to look at it so have been combing the net. However, I am left with confusion over whether a T3 is the 3 or 4 cylinder engine (all say the auto is 1.5 litre). I would also like to know which auto gearbox is used with them, not keen on the Ford Powershift but I am used to Aisin Warner boxes with a good old torque converter.
Any clarification would be appreciated.
 

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I'm pretty sure by 2017 Aisin Warner would be used for all auto boxes. Can't help with the engine though, but does it matter?
If it's a specific car ask the dealer or post the reg here and it can be checked easily enough.
 

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Thanks for the response. Its only that I like to check things out before I go too far and know any problems in advance to make a judgement. Having reviewed some of the new small DI engines they are not too good, particularly the Ford ones (from what I have read Suzuki seem to have it best sorted) so I wanted to make sure the Volvo one was not Ford derived. Reg is FT17DVF.
 

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That's 1498cc.
 

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No idea, but I'd guess 1.5L is a 3-pot.
 

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The engine is a Volvo Drive E (ref B4154T4) with a 6 speed torque converter gear box type AW TF-71SC.
The automatic version has the same module engine as the manual but the stroke has been reduced to 70.9 from 93.2 to give 1498cc instead of 1998.
My wife has the T2 automatic (on a 66 plate) and that is quite nippy but lacks mid range acceleration. Otherwise it is a smooth power train.
 

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Wikipedia says 1498c is 4-pot. 3-pot is 1477cc.
 

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Thanks guys, if it is a B4154T4 engine from the wiki link the handbook shows it as a 4 pot 152HP. Moreover it is a Volvo engine, not a Ford legacy.
 

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Yup, it's the 1.5l 4 pot with 6 speed Geartronic. I thought Ford powershifts were 1.6? I have this very combination T3 Geartronic, but in Momentum Nav + guise. Very smooth, not the quickest off the line (unless you hold brake with left foot and give it 2k revs before letting go brake in S mode), but once rolling it goes some, feels like a much bigger engine!
I have no idea if the engine is physically the same size as the 2.0 or it's just reduced volume inside the cylinders, but for a 1.5 it def doesn't sip fuel.
The 1.5 3 cylinders are only in XC40s coming in 160+ power as far as I know.
You should be able to get around 50mpg on a light traffic journey on 40-70mph roads. In cities, its a lottery, anywhere from 25-35mpg.
 

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As I said above, it is the same modular engine. It is the reduced stroke distance that leavs 1498 cc capacity. Copyu of the SP of Volvo data sheet attached.
Is that official Volvo documentation? To my eyes, the power/torque document is a copy paste where the actual figures are different - peak torque coming in at 1300 vs 1700.

As an aside, does anyone know why Volvo bothered with two different versions of the same engine - one for the auto and one for the manual? I can't really see much logic on the face of it but I assume there is.
 

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It is indeed not very logical at all, but the T2 and T3 geartronic have a 1.5 4-cyl engine, where the manuals have the 2.0.
The T4 always has the 2.0, and the T5 (only geartronic) is of course also a 2.0.
I did some research before buying my T4. When asking Volvo dealers about the logic in all this, no one could give a decent answer. But this is one of the reasons I've bought the T4 because I wanted a 2.0 and geartronic.
The V40 never had a 3-cyl engine.
 

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no 3-cylinders on V40.
Volvo 1.5L on Geartronic T2-T3 since 2014 ? , and 2.0L on manual gearbox, with 122/152PS for each. Before it was a Ford engine with 120/150PS.
 

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Nothing like creating confusion, I had read a review or two which said it was a 3 pot which is why I asked the question. As above, why did they need two similar engines (and I thought the same about the graphs, they do not show what the figures say)? Why call them both the same T3 designation. Even the full B4154T4 designation confuses with T4 on the end!!
 

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B4154T4
B stands for Bensin
4 : 4 pistons
15 : displacement 1.5l
4 : 4 valves per cylinder
T4 : variant

B4204T34
B stands for Bensin
4 : 4 pistons
20 : displacement 2.0l
4 : 4 valves per cylinder
T37 : variant
 
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