[Kev]

And just to clarify from another thread, (gear knobs) Volvo estate drivers aren't all antiques dealers!!!

Too darned right they are not. And just cos you choose to drive with a light foot does not mean you are an antique dealer either.

 

[Belisarius]

Question here: Does anyone's D2 use oil? Just interested in findings regarding "running in" and oil consumption once the miles get up a bit.[/QUOTE]

I must say I also thought running in is not necessary nowadays, but I tried not to thrash my Volvo for the first couple of thousand kms. I did not look at the rev counter all the time, I was just more careful on the gas.

Some 8k later, I noticed the oil was a tad below the half mark. I added a quarter of a bottle of oil (recommended Castrol Edge) - to my surprise, one or two thousand kms later, the oil was at the Max level. I was slightly worried I added too much oil or read the dipstick incorrectly the first time (not allowing oil to settle - although i always do two readings).

I was also sorry I was too impressed with the car when I got it and I didn't check the oil level - but I would assume it is closer to Max when cars leave the factory.

Did not have any problems since - nothing reported at the first service. For the last 10k or so, the oil level does not seem to drop.

Tiff, are you saying we should change oil more frequently than the recommended 12k miles? Considering your advice, I will give my Volvo a bit of a harder ride every now and then - at least I have a good excuse for having some fun .

 

[Tiff]

Did not have any problems since - nothing reported at the first service. For the last 10k or so, the oil level does not seem to drop.

Tiff, are you saying we should change oil more frequently than the recommended 12k miles? Considering your advice, I will give my Volvo a bit of a harder ride every now and then - at least I have a good excuse for having some fun .

I would say if you intend on keeping the car for a long time, then yes, change oil more frequently-If not, then I suppose it'll be the next owner's problem, or the one after that. I will be doing 6k changes from now on. I had very similar findings to you in the first 10k- had to add about 1/2 litre of oil at about 6k.I put mine in for it's service at 9.5k as I left it a bit longer to bed everything in..I know if you run Alfa engines in gently they drink oil later in life, ones that were driven fairly hard from day one use no oil..had the same experience with older Vauxhall motors.

Not 100% sure of the operation of the regen on the V40 yet, but some DPF equipped cars inject extra fuel into the combustion chamber during regen, which can cause the oil level to raise as it is diluted with fuel-I think my D2 has regen'd twice as the temp has gone up slightly and the cooling fan has run for a good 10 mins after switching off- the only time the fan has ever came on.

If you fit a replacement turbo to a HDi/TDCi engine, the turbo comes with a whole page of instructions, one of which is the warranty is void unless the oil is changed every 3000 miles. Also the oil feed pipe and filters in the banjo bolts must be replaces and the sump has to come off to get rid of all the grunge and the oil pump and pickup must be checked/replaced too..it IS that much of a (avoidable) problem.

 

[Kev]

All of the diesels I have ran over the years have never experienced problems, with the exception of the hard driven one that I mentioned previously. Indeed in my comparison to petrol engines the diesels have been flawless and long lived.

It would be great to see a copy of the warranty document / instructions posted up here in respect of the 3000 mile oil changes? That would help me understand where you are coming from. Lets face it, 3k and an oil change is not what I would describe as convenient.

 

[Tiff]

It would be great to see a copy of the warranty document / instructions posted up here in respect of the 3000 mile oil changes? That would help me understand where you are coming from. Lets face it, 3k and an oil change is not what I would describe as convenient.

This is a document from a turbo company, they all pretty much give the same conditions.. As mentioned before the V40 is too new to tell if it will have the same issues, with specific Volvo oil etc, but I'm not taking any chances with a 25 grand car for a 50 quid oil change.

http://www.btnturbo.com/bulletins/DS215_Iss001.pdf

http://www.btnturbo.com/bulletins/DS089_Iss007.pdf

 

[Kev]

An yes. These are the 2 documents that are easily available on the internet.

Not quite sure who the manufacturer is mind you? It may well be the way I have read it.

 

[lmafudd]

It seems to me that if one uses Volvo for service and meets all the service requirements inasmuch as dates/milage are not exceeded, then there is no need to worry regarding Turbo issues as Volvo warranty will cover this.

If a car is to be kept a further period than the normal three year warranty covers then an extended warranty may be purchased. It seems difficult to pin-down the exact cost for the V40 but around £500-£600 seems to be in the ball park Much less than an engine rebuild/turbo refit.

 

[Kev]

I am not sure I would be worrying about the text in those documents.

 

[Belisarius]

I have already bought the extended warranty, as I intend to keep my Volvo for five years (that's the long term plan, although not a very strict one). I am therefore not overly worried about the turbo - although I am inclined to change my oil slightly earlier than recommended (did that with all of my previous cars and never had a single engine problem). However, I have already come across other people writing about sensitivity of the turbo on PSA/Ford 1.6 diesels, outside of this forum. I don't believe somebody just made this up and intentionally spread the gossip on the internet.

That said, it must be one of the reasons why Volvo chose high grade oil (A5/B5 spec, marked for Volvo engines).

 

[Kev]

I have no doubt that some posts do exist on the internet based on a truth. But the problem with the internet is that one post can be picked up and spread around so that everyone thinks doom is here. . It all then gets out of context.

Yes a turbo will fail on some cars! But not to worry, that's life. There will be many many cars where such a disaster will not occur.

There will be many cars with all sorts of failures but many many more where things are fine.

I tend not to worry about what might happen. I just get out and stay worry free. If it happens it happens. No worries. :thumbup: Chances are it won't.

 

[rlfaxe]

Hi again,

Just to let you all know about the situation for my V40 D2 with this "cold start behavior".
My volvo dealer did a lot of check and testing and ended up trying to replace the injection nozzles (I am not sure if this is the correct word here, sorry). Anyway this didnt help at all so the did even more testing and found out my engine has a leakage so compression is not ok. Also they could see that one or more of the glow plugs were "wet".:s
So now I get a brand new engine installed. I really hope that will fix my car. Luckily it is still under warranty.

 

[vassilis]

rifaxe .. check your message please

 

[BrokenArrow]

Not all the D2s will suffer from the cold start issue. Fault is normally due to ambient temperature. Warmer weather glow plugs not required so ECM adjusts fuelling to compensate instead. In the colder weather (anything below 15degrees) glow plugs will come on and should run a lot smoother.

Calibrating injectors will mask the fault for up to 2 weeks then it will come back. Not much point really. Software being written for Volvo as we speak which should rectify it. Have also seen some where replacement injectors have cured. Haven't heard of engine replacement being recommended or authorised.

 

[MJW75]

My brand new D2 R Design is a little rough on first start of the day, but by the time I'm off the driveway it has gone. It doesn't seem to cause any issues at the moment, I'll keep an eye on this.

 

[Clawzskunk]

My car has begun running rough as the weather is getting colder.. actually kangarooing when trying to hold the car at about 1600 revs in a low gear. When it does this the rev counter bounces up and down on the display, even with my foot not moving a budge.. very frustrating.

 

[rlfaxe]

rifaxe .. check your message please

I have tried several times to send you a PM. But my sent box keep saying 0 messages. Strange.

 

[Kev]

This rough weather running really puzzles me? I have had my D2 for 2 years now and it runs great, just like new.

 

[mgzsman]

Yep, certainly puzzling. I had the problem every morning for a 2 or 3 month period but in the last month or 2 (even getting into colder weather) the car has has been as smooth as silk. Now I've got the dilema of whether to ask about it when it goes in for it's 12500 mile service next week - I don't want them to 'tinker' with it and screw up it's current perfect running.
:huh:

 

[OldCroc]

It is very likely that your car will have a software update with the service. This may also have some fuelling updates. I understand that you can ask the dealer to leave any part of the update out if you wish. I found some improvements to performance when i had my 12.5 service including some changes to the gearing - i have powershift.

 

[vassilis]

It is very likely that your car will have a software update with the service. This may also have some fuelling updates. I understand that you can ask the dealer to leave any part of the update out if you wish. I found some improvements to performance when i had my 12.5 service including some changes to the gearing - i have powershift.

The cold start issue....is not a part of the Software Update. The cold start issue is a Mechanical problem , nothing more....nothing less.

It will come back again the problem in short time.